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  Are you more ecological, more economical or more wasteful? Did your habits change at all when you left the borg?

  by likeabird in

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  i know from living on a borg budget, you don't have much choice but to live economically.

  recycling, while ecological, can also be a form of economy.. did the verse "god will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" play a guilt factor in your ecological habits?

  i know it used to hum along in the back of my mind.. did any of your habits change when you left the borg?

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  new light on FDS and 1914

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  the society claims now, that before 1914/1919 there was no fds, this means also, russel was not part of it, he was not the channel from god.. then the calculation for 1914, which russel made popular and promoted, was done in a time, when god revealed actually nothing, does this prepare the way to finally dump 1914 chronology ?

  approaching the 100 year anniversary for christs supposed rulership, it becomes anyway more and more ridicolous.. i know, some argue 1914 is essential for their being chosen 1919, but now they say, they are somehow not appointed over the belongings yet, so also this aspect looses significance.

  and the inspection of the temple can begin anytime anyway, it was convinient to link it to 1914 but i think its not really necessary.

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  Yep, they're getting ready to remove most of the dates they ever believed in. Take a look at the first chart, under the heading The Last Days.

  It used to be:

  1.) one generation, then

  2.) two-generations (overlapping)

  Now they seem to be pushing for 3.) "The Last Days of unknown length"
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  No more big District Conventions?

  by serenitynow! in

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  so i went to the hall today for a funeral and took a look at the bulletin board.

  i was surprised to see a letter stating the dc for michigan would be held at the local assembly hall instead of the big convention center in ohio where it had been held the past few years.

  have you all heard about this?.

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  Bulletin Board? What bulletin?

  One of the first bulletin ever:

  On October 31, 1517, Martin Luther nailed to the church door at Wittenberg 95 theses (protests) exposing wrong teachings of the church.
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  Under the New Light, Where is the Continuity?

  by Ding in

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  under the old light, from 33 ce onward, there was always an anointed remnant on earth, and these constituted the faithful and discreet slave class whom jesus had appointed over his domestics to give them spiritual meat in due season.. but the new light is that the "anointed" were not the faithful and discreet slave after all.. in fact, according to the new light, jesus did not appoint anyone as faithful and discreet slave over his domestics until 1919 (not even the apostles or russell).. so according to the new light, who or what was jehovah's visible organization from the death of the apostles until 1919?.

  who was authorized to provide spiritual food in due season?.

  where is the continuity?.

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  The Searcher >>

  Who would replace that 'servant' later on as God's collective 'servant'? "The Israel of God". (Galatians 6:16: Matthew 21:43) Who are the Israel of God? All those who were reconciled by faith in Christ.

  So everyone is a steward or slave and each one has the option of being faithful & discreet, or evil. There are no 'classes' - it's ONE flock!

  Exactly! The WTBTS just worded it differently:

  "However, Christians who have truly received this anointing do not demand special attention. They do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special insights beyond what even some experienced members of the “great crowd” may have. (Rev. 7:9) They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the “other sheep” have. (John 10:16)"

  w09 6/15 p. 23 par. 15

  Then I beg the question: After all, why follow them?
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  2013 Watchtower, July 15 - CHARTS for discussion

  by bats in the belfry in

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  The first chart, under the heading The Last Days, it used to be

  1.) one generation, then

  2.) two-generations (overlapping)

  Now they seem to be pushing for 3.) "The Last Days of unknown length"
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  2013 Watchtower, July 15 - CHARTS for discussion

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  Watchtower’s Power Protection Program

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  watchtowers power protection program.

  today i added a new article to my blog addressing watchtower's newly rolled out teaching that effectively puts about 12,000 of jehovahs witnesses outside the circle of authorized providers of spiritual food to jehovahs witnesses.

  my article is titled watchtowers power protection program and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/04/watchtowers-power-protection-program.html.

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  Marvin Shilmer >> You may want to add that each and every Christian really gets the point by now that those 8 people have no special insight.

  Who is the "the Faithful Steward and Its Governing Body?"

  "However, Christians who have truly received this anointing do not demand special attention. They do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special insights beyond what even some experienced members of the “great crowd” may have. (Rev. 7:9) They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the “other sheep” have. (John 10:16)"

  w09 6/15 p. 23 par. 15

  Then I beg the question: Why follow them at all?
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  What is the role of the rest of the Anointed,please ?

  by Phizzy in

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  i am a little confused, i have to admit it is laziness/nausea, i cannot make myself read the latest rag that spews out the new shite, but my question is, what is the future role of the rest of the anointed ?.

  if the fds, which now consists of a handful of men, is going to be "appointed over all jesus' belongings" are the rest of the anointed not only redundant now, but into eternity too ?.

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  As the FDS/GB would say: Just shut up . . . die . . . and get glorified with Jesus.
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  July 15th Study Edition Is Up..

  by confusedteenager in

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  not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.

  they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.

  of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .

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  Yet that very same month JWs go D2D with this sample presentation:

  

  In light of the WT magazine currently under discussion, how will you respond to that question?
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  2013 June Our Kingdom Ministry!

  by Atlantis in

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  Greatly appreciated, Atlantis!